Henry PLANTAGENET
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth: 13 Jul 1267 Windsor Castle, Berkshire, England
Christening:
Death: 14 Oct 1274 Merton, Surrey, England
Burial: 20 Oct 1274
Cause of Death:
Parents
Father: Edward I PLANTAGENET King of England (1239-1307)
Mother: Alianore DE CASTILE (1243-1290)
Henry PLANTAGENET Earl of Lancaster
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth: 1281 Lancaster, Lanc, Eng
Christening:
Death: 22 Sep 1345 Monastry Cannons
Burial: Monastry Cannons
Cause of Death:
Parents
Father: Edmund PLANTAGENET Earl of Lancaster (1244-1296)
Mother: Blanche D'ARTOIS (Abt 1261-1302)
Spouses and Children
1. *Maude CHAWORTH (Abt 1281 - 1322)
Marriage: 1334 , , Eng
Children:
1. Maud PLANTAGENET (1298 - 5 May 1377)
2. Henry PLANTAGENET Duke of Lancaster (1299 - 24 Mar 1361)
3. Joan PLANTAGENET (1312 - 7 Jul 1349)
4. Alianore PLANTAGENET (1318 - 11 Jan 1372)
5. Mary PLANTAGENET (1320 - 1 Sep 1362)
6. Blanche PLANTAGENET (Abt 1322 - 12 Sep 1369)
2. Alix DE JOINVILLE ( - )
Marriage:
Notes
General:
!Ancestral file
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!Earl Lancaster 3rd Earl of Lancaster
Henry PLANTAGENET
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth: 28 Feb 1154 Bermondsey, London, England
Christening:
Death: 11 Jun 1183 Martel, France
Burial:
Cause of Death:
Parents
Father: Henry-II PLANTAGENET King of England (1133-1189)
Mother: Eleanor-Of-Aquitaine (1123-1204)
Spouses and Children
1. *Margaret* Of France (1158 - 1196)
Marriage: 1173
Notes
General:
Usually referred to as "the young king", the chosen successor to KING HENRY II, but he rebelled against his father. Predeceased his father.
Henry PLANTAGENET Duke of Lancaster
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth: 1299 Gresmont, Monmouthshire
Christening:
Death: 24 Mar 1361 Leicester, Lei, Eng
Burial: Newark Church, Lei, Lei, Eng
Cause of Death:
Parents
Father: Henry PLANTAGENET Earl of Lancaster (1281-1345)
Mother: Maude CHAWORTH (Abt 1281-1322)
Spouses and Children
1. *Isabel DE BEAUMONT (Abt 1305 - )
Marriage: 1325 Lancaster, Lanc, Eng
Children:
1. Prioress Isabel PLANTAGENET Of Amesbury (1317 - 1347)
2. Mary PLANTAGENET (1320 - 1 Sep 1362)
Notes
General:
!Henry of Grosmont
Henry-II PLANTAGENET King of England
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth: 5 Mar 1133 Le Mans, Sartre, France
Christening:
Death: 6 Jul 1189 Chinon, Indret-Loire, France
Burial:
Cause of Death:
Parents
Father: Geoffrey-V PLANTAGENET Duke Of Normandy (1113-1151)
Mother: Matilda-Of-England (1102-1167)
Spouses and Children
1. *Rosamund DE CLIFFORD ( - 1176)
Marriage:
Children:
1. Archbishop Geoffrey PLANTAGENET ( - )
2. William DE LONGESPEE Earl of Salisbury (1176 - 7 Mar 1226)
3. Peter PLANTAGENET ( - )
2. Eleanor-Of-Aquitaine (1123 - 1 Apr 1204)
Marriage: 18 May 1152
Children:
1. William PLANTAGENET (17 Aug 1152 - 1156)
2. Henry PLANTAGENET (28 Feb 1154 - 11 Jun 1183)
3. Richard-I PLANTAGENET King of England (8 Sep 1157 - 6 Apr 1199)
4. Maud(Matilda) PLANTAGENET (Jun 1156 - 28 Jun 1189)
5. Geoffrey PLANTAGENET (23 Sep 1158 - 19 Aug 1186)
6. Eleanor PLANTAGENET (13 Oct 1162 - 31 Oct 1214)
7. John-I PLANTAGENET King of England (24 Dec 1167 - 19 Oct 1216)
8. Joan PLANTAGENET (Oct 1165 - 4 Sep 1199)
3. Annabel BALLIOL ( - 31 Mar 1204)
Marriage: Unmarried
4. Ida Countess ( - )
Marriage:
Notes
General:
Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (1:25), (30:25), (101:25), (110:26).
Henry-III PLANTAGENET King of England
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth: 1 Oct 1207 Winchester, England
Christening:
Death: 16 Nov 1272 Westminster, England
Burial: Westminister Abb, London, Eng
Cause of Death:
Parents
Father: John-I PLANTAGENET King of England (1167-1216)
Mother: Isabel TAILLIFER (1188-1246)
Spouses and Children
1. *Eleanor-Of-Provence (1217 - 24 Jun 1291)
Marriage: 14 Jan 1237 Canterbury, , Eng
Children:
1. Edward I PLANTAGENET King of England (18 Jun 1239 - 7 Jul 1307)
2. Margaret PLANTAGENET (29 Sep 1240 - 26 Feb 1275)
3. Prince John PLANTAGENET (Abt 1241 - Bef 1256)
4. Edmund PLANTAGENET Earl of Lancaster (16 Jan 1244 - 5 Jun 1296)
5. Beatrice PLANTAGENET (25 Jun 1242 - 24 Mar 1275)
6. Richard PLANTAGENET (Abt 1250 - Bef 1256)
7. Henry PLANTAGENET (Abt 1243 - Abt 1257)
8. Katherine PLANTAGENET (25 Nov 1253 - 3 May 1257)
9. William PLANTAGENET (Abt 1256 - Abt 1256)
Notes
General:
!Kings and Queens of Eng, Delderfield 48-49 Royal Anc of LDS Families
!Ancestral file, Ancedotes Eleanor of Provence; Queens of Myth and Legend 45-47
!Ancestral Roots of 60 Colonists "Weak, untrustworthy, ruthless in taxing. Created House of Commons. Patron of early English and Gothic architecture. Rebuilt Westminister Abbey."
!26gg G 533479 H 85355649
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!Kings and Queens of Eng, Delderfield 48-49 Royal Anc of LDS Families
Seal to Parents: 22 NOV 1994 SGEOR - St. George, UT
Isabel PLANTAGENET
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth: 16 Jun 1332 Woodstock Palace, Ox, Eng
Christening:
Death: Bef 4 May 1379 London, Middlesex, England
Burial: Grey Friars, Newgate, Midd, Eng
Cause of Death:
Parents
Father: Edward III PLANTAGENET King of England (1312-1377)
Mother: Philippa D'AVESNES (1311-1369)
Spouses and Children
1. *Enguerrand VII DE COUCY Earl of Bedford ( - 1398)
Marriage: 27 Jul 1365
Prioress Isabel PLANTAGENET Of Amesbury
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth: 1317
Christening:
Death: 1347
Burial:
Cause of Death:
Parents
Father: Henry PLANTAGENET Duke of Lancaster (1299-1361)
Mother: Isabel DE BEAUMONT (Abt 1305- )
Isabella PLANTAGENET
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth: 1214 Gloucester, England
Christening:
Death: 1 Dec 1241 Foggia
Burial:
Cause of Death:
Parents
Father: John-I PLANTAGENET King of England (1167-1216)
Mother: Isabel TAILLIFER (1188-1246)
Notes
General:
Per Allstrom's "Dictionary of royal Lineage".
Isabella PLANTAGENET
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
Cause of Death:
Parents
Father: Hamelyn PLANTAGENET Earl of Surrey (Abt 1129-1202)
Mother: Isabel DE WARENNE ( -1199)
Spouses and Children
1. Robert DE LACY ( - 1193)
Marriage:
2. *Roger LE BIGOD Earl of Norfolk (1150 - 1221)
Marriage:
Children:
1. Hugh LE BIGOD Earl of Norfolk (Bef 1195 - Feb 1224)
3. Gilbert DE L'AIGLE ( - )
Marriage:
Notes
General:
Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (69:28) identifies her as ROGER's wife, but does not comment as to her parentage.
The following three sources, among others, give the identity of ROGER BIGOD's wife as Isabel de Warenne, dau. of HAMELIN PLANTAGENET (RIN 1696) and ISABEL DE WARENNE (RIN 1670): Magna Charta Barons and their American Descendants (by Charles H. Browning) Synopsis of the Peerage of England (1825) by Nicholas Harris Dugdales, Banks and Collins Extinct Peerages.
Cokayne's "Complete Peerage" In the article for ROGER BIGOD, Earl of Norfolk, on p. 589, has the statement, "He m. Ida, whose parentage is not known." Cokayne does not even venture a guess or mention any possible identities for Ida's parents. Cockayne is, by far, the more reliable source.
"Todd A. Farmerie" posted to soc.genealogy.medieval on 04 Jan 1997: Subject: Re: Roger Bigod m.Isabel Plantagenet? "FWIW, Roberts reports that there is an unpublished work identifying this Ida as the "Countess Ida" mother of William Longespee, Earl of Salisbury, Henry II's bastard. If this is true, then she couldn't be daughter of Hamelin, or else Henry's seduction or rape of his own niece would surely have drawn comment from contemporary chroniclers."
There is a much discussed document, from The Bradenstoke Cartulary, in which WILLIAM LONGSWORD refers to his mother as "the Countess Ida". A post which boils the discossion down to its essence follows: . . . On 27 Feb 1998 tcain@dircon.co.uk (Tom Cain) posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Countess Ida and the Bradenstoke Cartulary: . . . "On balance, it is an acceptable interpretation of the evidence that 'Comitisse Ida' was William Longsword's mother. The further evidence that Ida Bigod was one of Henry II's favoured mistresses puts her on the same side of the blanket as William. The scales are further tipped that way by Todd's [Todd Farmerie] comments about William's guardianship of Roger Bigod when his father (and therefore William's half-brother) died. This establishes an 'prima facia' case that William had some kin-relationship to the Bigods. It is an entirely acceptable hypothesis, and will do until something better comes along. Under Scottish criminal law, this case would be found as 'Not Proven' - and returned to the investigators until more evidence could be found ".
If this Ida was the mother of WILLIAM LONGSWORD, that would make her identical to KING HENRY II's unidentified mistress (RIN 5264).
More discussion on Ida's possible identity: . . . reedpcgen@aol.com (Reedpcgen) posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com on 27 Feb 1998 Subject: Re: Countess Ida and the Bradenstoke Cartulary: . . . "Actually, no. It is always intriguing to see familial names when you are looking for them, but the vast majority of guardianships were granted to people of no immediate or near relation (at least within two or three generations). They frequently became related in the next generation because the person would acquire the wardship and marriage of an heir in order to marry them to one of their own children, or at least profit by an arranged marriage. Also, some income from the ward's lands were also generally part of the package. In the case of Roger le Bigod and William Longespee, however, the grant of guardianship seems to be much more motivated by political expediency. There is no actual reason to assume a blood relationship between the two (though there may have been): . . . Roger le Bigod, Earl of Norfolk 1189-1221, was husband of only one known wife, named Ida. They were parents of Hugh le Bigod, Earl 1221-1125. It was Hugh's son (not Roger's) that is the minor in question. Roger le Bigod, b. 1212 or 1213, was a minor at his father's death. . . . William Longespee was given the marriage of Ela/Isabel of Salisbury, with the Earldom, by King Richard I in 1196. She was born ca. 1191 (or 1187). William was a close associate and member of the Royal household. He was with Richard in Normandy 1196-8, present at John's coronation 27 May 1199, and according to CP 11:379, note h (citing Hovendon, vol. iv, p. 13, Rot. Chartarum and Cartae Antiquae), William was "during the reign, till Midsummer 1216, ...constantly with the King [John] or occupied with the King's business." Earl William died 7 March 1225/6 in the tenth year of Henry III's reign (acceded 19 Oct. 1216). . . . The elder Roger le Bigod had joined the Barons against King John in their ultimatum from Stamford with his son Hugh and were among the 25 sureties elected to maintain Magna Charta against King John. William Longespee, Earl of Salisbury, was among the list of nobles named in the preamble of that document as advisors to the king. Hmmmm. (Hugh le Bigod had already married Maud, daughter of William Marshall, Earl of Pembroke, chief of the advisors, though, so families were not entirely split along party lines.) . . . Hugh le Bigod did not die until 1225, and the elder Roger lived on until 1221. But Hugh's heir, Roger, fell into the King's hands in 1216. It is at THAT time that his custody (not guardianship, in the sense of wardship) was granted to William Longespee, Earl of Salisbury, a close and loyal associate (and brother) of King John. It just happened that the heir was still a minor when his father and grandfather died. I conclude from this that there is no evidence from this event alone of blood relationship--merely that William was one of John's most trusted allies (in spite of John's personal habits). (Roger's wardship was granted to King William "the Lion" in Oct. 1226, after Earl William's death, but remember that Roger had already married the King's daughter, so family interests were just being cared for.) . . . So examining the facts in context, there is no indication of bloodship from the lone item of the guardianship. We have to look elsewhere. . . . Henry II had many French connections (his father was Geoffrey of Anjou and Maine, his wife was Eleanor of Aquitaine, formerly wife of King Louis VII, his eldest son William was born in Normandy, his heir young Henry married Louis' daughter Margaret, he died at Chinon, and even King John had been married to Isabella of Angouleme), let alone the amount of time he spent on the Continent. . . . Henry was one of the most dashing and succesful warriors of his time, and certainly had an eye for the ladies. So I don't see how we can discount a possible liason with the Countess of Boulogne at this point. . . . I thought it was interesting that Countess Ida of Norfolk was simply called "Ida uxoris Meae" in one charter, but 'Countess Ida' in another: CP 9:585, note b, citing [William] Dugdale, Mon[asticon Anglicanum], 4:102: Ego Rogerus Bigot, comes Norfolchiae, concessi et hac praesenti carta mea confirmavi Deo et ecclesiae beatae Mariae de Colne [etc.] ... et cum capella de Herewyche, quam ego assensu eorum fundavi, pro salute animae meae et comitis Hugonis fratris [sic, recte patris] mei [see, even undisputedly valid charters have their mistakes], et comitissae Julianae matris meae, et Idae uxoris meae.... . . . CP 9:586, note f, citing Anc[ient] Deed A 14361: Again he granted tithes of his demesne of Halvergate to Carlow Priory for the souls of his father Earl Hugh and his mother the Countess Juliane, his wife the Countess Ida, and his son William...." (But since Calendar of Ancient Deeds is rendered in English, I cannot give the original Latin.) . . . At any rate, CP was not able to identify the parentage of Countess Ida of Norfolk. Is anyone aware that a discovery of her parentage has since been made?"
The same poster latyer added: . . . reedpcgen@aol.com (Reedpcgen) posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com on 28 Feb 1998 Subject: Countess Ida of Boulogne: . . . "We need to also remember that Ida of Boulogne was one of two daughters (the couple had no surviving sons) of Mary, Countess of Boulogne (b. ca. 1136-1182) and her husband Matthew of Alsace, Count of Boulogne in right of his wife. Mary was daughter of King Stephen of England. Stephen had married Matilda, only daughter and heiress of Eustace III, Count of Boulogne, by Mary of Scotland. Her sister was (first) wife of Henry I of England. The Empress Matilda had retired to Normandy by 1152, and was succeeded in her quest for the throne of England by her son the young Henry [II (b. 1133)]. . . . J. Horace Round, in his _Studies in Peerage and Family History_, wrote an article on the English holdings of the Counts of Boulogne which he followed into the reign of King John. . . . So Countess Ida of Boulogne had close royal ties by blood to Henry II, and her family had holdings in England. She was an heiress in her own right (correct me if I'm wrong, I don't have ES here). . . . Boulogne was very close to the French lands Henry II inherited by right of birth. It would be almost inconceivable that Ida and Henry did not meet, or know each other, and this countess would be much more the type of girl Henry would have gone for. Any issue she had would be great-grandson of King Stephen. No wonder she had several husbands and was in court circles. She may have been Henry's match (remember that Eleanor was a woman with a similarprofile). "
