Humbert
Sex: M
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Father: Fulk III Count Of Anjou (0909-0958)
Mother: Gerberga-Of-Maine ( -0952)
Humbert III Count of Savoy
Sex: M
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Birth: 4 Aug 1136 Aveillare, Savoy, France
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Death: 4 Mar 1188-1189 ,Cyprus
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1. Gertrude of Flanders ( - 1162)
Marriage: 1175
2. Beatrix Of Macon (Abt 1160 - Bef 8 Apr 1230)
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1. Thomas I (20 May 1177 - 1 Mar 1232)
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Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (133:26).
Quoting from Christopher Cope's, "The Lost Kingdom of Burgundy" : "Humbert III, who reigned from 1149 to 1189, . . . was a man of irresolute spirit who was disconsolate at being born a prince and preferred the seclusion of a monestery. He only renounced his chosen state of celibacy so as to give his land an heir . . . " Two wives produced only a daughter. "Humbert gave up and became a Carthusian monk . . . As the
ancient chronicle narrates, the barons, knights, and people of Savoy went to the abbot to beg him to restore their count to them, but his marriage . . . again only produced a daughter; Humbert was about to withdraw to the abbey of Aulps when he was prevailed on to marry yet again, and his fourth wife gave him an heir who fortunately had the kingly qualities which Humbert lacked." Weis' "Ancestral Roots . . ." (133:36), however, has the third wife, BEATRIX OF MACON as THOMAS' mother. Europaische Stammtafeln ii, 190 confirms
BEATRIX.
Humbert-IiI
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1. *Gisele-Of-Burgundy ( - )
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1. Adelaide-Of-Savoy (1092 - 18 Nov 1154)
Hunroch
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1. *Engeltrude ( - )
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1. Marquis Eberhard Of Friuli ( - 865)
Ida Countess
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1. *Henry-II PLANTAGENET King of England (5 Mar 1133 - 6 Jul 1189)
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Regarding the mother of WILLIAM DE LONGESPEE:
Weis' "Ancestral Roots" (30:26), calls him the natural son of HENRY II by an unknown mistress (perhaps Alix de Porhoet).
Rosamond Clifford and Annabel Balliol have been put forth as his mother by various scholars.
"Vickie (Elam) White" <102657.1616@COMPUSERVE.COM> posted to soc.genealogy.medieval on 7 Feb 1997 (in part): Subject: Re: Ridlesford - Longespee (was NESTA of Wales) "I dont' know about the Ridelsford line, but Rosamonde CLIFFORD was not the mother of William Longespee. Current thinking is that his mother was IDA (RIN 1968), who later married ROGER BIGOD, 2d Earl of Norfolk. Source: Gary Boyd Roberts' _Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the United States_ (1993). Evidently the source used by Roberts was a charter of William Longespee published in the _Cartulary of Bradenstoke Priory_ ed. by Vera C. M.London (Publications of the Wiltshire Record Society, Vol. 35, 1979) which explicitly named a "Countess Ida" as his mother. And William did name a daughter Ida. Also, there is evidently an article on her in The Genealogist Volume 3 (1982) pp. 265 - 266, which I have not seen. I don't know if this was used as a source for Roberts' position. I was told in February 1996 that there was a forthcoming article by Douglas Richardson that would fully document this identification. Does anyone know if this article has been published yet?"
"Charles Evans, in The Genealogist iii:265-6, cited a couple of charters in which William Longespee names his mother as a Countess Ida. He then suggested that she may have been Ida of Flanders, Countess of Boulogne (RIN 8563) , daughter of Matthew of Alsace (165-26) and of Maud, daughter of King Stephen." --- Todd A. Farmerie, "Weis: Ancestral Roots, 7th Edition - Corrections*, soc.genealogy.medieval (Internet newsgroup), 1 Aug 1995
Ida
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Birth: 1083
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Death: 17 Jan 1118
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Father: Otto II ( -1124)
Mother: Adelaide-Of-Namur (1068-1124)
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1. *Godfrey-I Duke of Lower Lorraine (1060 - 25 Jan 1139)
Marriage: 1100
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1. Godfrey-II Duke of Brabant (Abt 1005 - 1142)
2. Adeliza-Of-Louvain (1103 - 23 Apr 1151)
Ida
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1. *Guy-II ( - 1147)
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Ida
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1. *Thomas DE MULTON ( - 1294)
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1. Sir Thomas DE MULTON ( - )
Ida-Of-Flanders
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Father: Mathew-Of-Alsace Count Of Boulogne (Abt 1137-1173)
Mother: Mary-Of-Blois Countess Of Mortain (1136-1183)
Ida-Of-Glane
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Father: Peter-Of-Glane ( - )
Mother: ? ( - )
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1. *Aimon-I (1050 - )
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1. Amadeus-I (1100 - 26 Jun 1178)
