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Remember the parable of the foolish virgins, who did not take enough oil for their lamps.. and the wise virgins,... who took enough oil to last until the Bridegroom came..... they WERE ALL VIRGINS..(i.e. had purity)... BUT... in greek the word for OIL is almost identical to the word for MERCY... so... purity is necessary ... but not sufficient
Carlito3rd: HEllo
Sitaram: hi
Carlito3rd: Goodmorning to you
Sitaram: good morning
Carlito3rd: I noticed you were Hindu from your profile. What do some of the words from your profile mean?
Sitaram: they are simply key words.. so people will find me on a search... they are not sentences
Carlito3rd: oh. So each word represents a subject?
Sitaram: anekantavada is a Jain religious term... meaning "no one single point of view"
Sitaram: its known as "Doctrine of Manifold Aspects"
Carlito3rd: hmm
Sitaram: Akal Perukh is a Sikh term for God... meaning.... Beyond TIME
Carlito3rd: Jain is?
Sitaram: Jain is one of the two oldest continuously practiced religions in world...
Carlito3rd: I learned it was similar to both Hinduism and buddism - Jain. Oh what is the other?
Sitaram: the other oldest continuously practiced is Saivite
Carlito3rd: what are the main doctrines od Saivite?
Sitaram: Ghandi had a Jain teacher... who taught him... Ahimsa... non violence
Carlito3rd: hmm Ghandi was a wise man
Sitaram: Saivite... worship of God as Lord Shiva....
Sitaram: did you visit my website???
Carlito3rd: no
Sitaram: its about hinduism... I will give you URL
Sitaram: hold on
Carlito3rd: ok thankyou
Sitaram: Click here: A Hindu Dream - seeing GOD - Page 1
Sitaram: what is your email address.. I will also email you URL
Carlito3rd: my computer is rather slow
Sitaram: thats ok
Sitaram: what is your email address.. I will email you the URL for convenience and furture reference
Carlito3rd: my e-mail address. no need. I will bookmark it
Sitaram: ok
Carlito3rd: thankyou
Sitaram: welcome
Carlito3rd: are you a priest of sorts
Sitaram: no
Carlito3rd: oh
Carlito3rd: What do you do?
Sitaram: computer programmer
Carlito3rd: ahh. For AOL?
Sitaram: no ... just simple business applications
Carlito3rd: I see
Carlito3rd: I hope you are not a hacker
Sitaram: no
Carlito3rd: that is good
Sitaram: you are the one who is anonymous.... you know who I am.. I mean profile.. email
Carlito3rd: yes how did you know I used the AOL instant messanger?
Sitaram: for one thing... it doesnt have the NOTIFY AOL button
Carlito3rd: oh how interesting
Sitaram: for another... it prompts me first with a message... asking me to accept...
Sitaram: whereas IM from within AOL... the message simply appears on screen
Carlito3rd: well I prefer to remain anonymous unless it makes you uncomfortable
Carlito3rd: as it does, yes
Sitaram: its ok... I am just pointing out that hackers usually maintain anonymity
Sitaram: it is simply ironic that you ask me if I am a hacker.. but you are the anonymous one
Carlito3rd: no I wouldn't know where to begin hack except at the bookstore
Sitaram: me neither
Sitaram: what city state are you in... what part of country
Carlito3rd: perhaps Barnes and Noble would offer books on hacking. I am from Detroit Michigan
Sitaram: and you are in detroit now?....
Carlito3rd: yes I live and work in Detroit
Sitaram: you mean.. like "Hacking for Dummies?"
Sitaram: there are so many of those titles.. even "Wine tasting for Dummies"
Carlito3rd: Haha yes there are many of those yellow books about aren't there
Carlito3rd: whoever started those must be drinking the wine and eating the caviar
Sitaram: probably
Carlito3rd: those and Idiots guides
Sitaram: yes
Carlito3rd: Where are you from?
Sitaram: born in NYC... of dutch, british, irish ancestry... first ancestor came here in 1632
Sitaram: no indian ancestry
Carlito3rd: my goodness. Full American
Carlito3rd: as in Asian Indian right?
Sitaram: well... except not american indian
Sitaram: exactly.. since im Hindu.. people assume some asian indian ancestry
Carlito3rd: ah, I assumed with your being hindu
Carlito3rd: yes
Sitaram: yes... thats a natural assumption
Carlito3rd: what made you decide to be hindu?
Sitaram: well... its all in the website.... were you able to successfully bring up the page 1
Carlito3rd: oh I haven't read it, I only bookmarked it for future uses
Sitaram: also.. when you visit.. click on INDEX of PAGES.. to see contents.. there are 40 browser pages.. and 150 typed pages
Sitaram: well... if you read page 1... you will understand.... and if you read through other pages.. then you will know a lot about me from a religious point of view
Carlito3rd: I see
Carlito3rd: ok I will read at a later time
Sitaram: it is a lot of typing to explain,... over and over.... so partly.. that is why I created the website
Carlito3rd: that is understandable
Sitaram: and... there is a button to click for email feedback....
Sitaram: dont forget.. you can open any number of free email accounts... in places like www.hotmail.com ... and preserve your anonymity
Sitaram: also.. check out www.bigfoot.com
Carlito3rd: ah yes I know
Sitaram: if that is important to you
Carlito3rd: it is not
Carlito3rd: but perhaps to you
Sitaram: but you know me...
Sitaram: I am not hiding...
Carlito3rd: not really
Sitaram: I just ment.. if you want to email me
Carlito3rd: I know as much about you as you do about me
Carlito3rd: I'm sorry I haven't a webpage
Sitaram: well.. I have a profile... and I give out my website.. which has my picture... and my real email address..
Carlito3rd: I see
Sitaram: and more or less indicates my neighborhood where I live
Sitaram: if you read the webpage # 1
Carlito3rd: yes?
Sitaram: of course.. no person ever really knows another... even family members
Sitaram: if you think about it
Carlito3rd: friends do, good freinds
Sitaram: it is sometimes questionable how many people even know themselves
Sitaram: then ... your definition of "knowing" someone or something... is superficial
Carlito3rd: "How can you expect to posess another when you can not even begin to possess yourself"
Carlito3rd: proverb
Sitaram: good point
Carlito3rd: possession = know
Carlito3rd: I think it is confusion
Carlito3rd: haha Of Confucius
Sitaram: from way of the tao by Lao Tse.... "He who knows others has achieved wisdom... he who knows the self has achieved Enlightenment
Sitaram: 33rd verse of Tao
Carlito3rd: ah so more difficult to know thy self?
Sitaram: and a few lines late... "He who has learned to be content with what he has.... has achieved true wealth"
Sitaram: Socrates quotes the inscriptions at the gate of the Delphic Oracle.... "Know Thyself"... and "Nothing In Excess" (moderation in all)
Carlito3rd: I do not agree that my definition of good friends knowing you is superficial. My definition of a good friend is one who knows you better than you know yourself and can mirror you
Sitaram: suit yourself... you are entitled to your opinions
Carlito3rd: I was just reading what you wrote before. I agree with "he who has to be content..." Is similar to the buddist want is pain. want not suffer not
Sitaram: the first of Buddha's 4 noble truths ... "Life is Suffering"
Carlito3rd: yes
Sitaram: and... we suffer from desire... "we desire things that we do not have.... and we have things that we do not desire"
Carlito3rd: yes
Carlito3rd: grass is always greener on the other side
Carlito3rd: things we cannot have we want more
Sitaram: there is a saying in India... "Even the DESIRE for Liberation (salvation, moksha).. is IN ITSELF.. an empediment (obstacle) to Liberation"
Sitaram: because desire is attachment, suffering, bondage
Carlito3rd: I agree, that is a bit of a paradox. Wanting enligtenment will prevent you from it because to acieve enlightenment you must have no want
Sitaram: also... in Eastern beliefs.... virtuous actions ... meritorious actions.. are as much bondage... as ignoble or sinful or evil actions
Carlito3rd: explain that. How so?
Carlito3rd: because one expects reward because of them?
Sitaram: well... in a simple minded... Buddhist outlook.. if you do many meritorious good things
Carlito3rd: yes?
Sitaram: you will accrue much good Karma, and Merit... which will.... cause you to.. enjoy the fruits
Carlito3rd: which is good, no?
Sitaram: of that good karma... in a heavenly condition
Carlito3rd: how so is that bondage then?
Sitaram: it is as much bondage... as to suffer from bad karma in a hellish condition
Sitaram: the west fails to understand the nature of duality...
Carlito3rd: but good karma is not a hellish condition
Sitaram: yes... but you are still thinging in a dualist fashion...
Sitaram: so if its not bad... then its good.. and good is DESIREABLE
Carlito3rd: I must think in a singlist fashion?
Sitaram: BUT.... the person who enjoys paradise... suffers.. from the thought of one day LOOSING that paradise
Carlito3rd: right good is generally desireable
Sitaram: but... remember our earlier statement.. that all forms of desire... lead to suffering
Sitaram: here you are.. back in the bondage of desire
Sitaram: but .. you do not even realize it
Carlito3rd: and upon loss of that paradise suffers so much more that if he had never had it before?
Sitaram: exactly
Carlito3rd: yea I agree
Sitaram: another example...
Sitaram: in the west .... people often ask "Does God exist"
Carlito3rd: yes
Sitaram: or they say.... "Prove that God exists"...
Carlito3rd: at times
Sitaram: but... they fail to realize that..
Sitaram: Existance and non-Being... are also Dualities
Sitaram: and... if God is the source of all Dualities...
Carlito3rd: oh but I thoufght the west suffwered from dualities?
Sitaram: but also.. prior to them
Sitaram: then... God is beyond even existance... and non-existance
Carlito3rd: I agree
Sitaram: so... to even speak of God's existance.. is to caste ones concept of God back into the realm of duality.. and thus limit and diminish God's majesty
Carlito3rd: how so?
Carlito3rd: I mean how so duality?
Sitaram: well... in a simple minded way of explaining
Sitaram: if you say that God is.... "required to Exist"
Sitaram: well. that puts a limit on God...
Carlito3rd: How does speaking of God caste the existence into Duality?
Sitaram: if you look at some of the current studies in Quantum Physics..
Carlito3rd: God is not said to be required to exist is he?
Sitaram: you will see that sub atomic entities have been discovered.. which regularly vascillate between being and non-being.. as part of their nature
Carlito3rd: Quantum Physics is simple about physics on the atomic level
Carlito3rd: quarks
Carlito3rd: matter and antimatter
Sitaram: and ... also... events have been discovered... which are purely spontaneous... and beyond causality..... so... the concept of determinism is forever.. undermined ... complete determinism that is
Sitaram: you should believe... what you are comfortable believing...
Sitaram: it is not necessary for you to share my beliefs.. or understanding
Carlito3rd: sorry had to use the bathroom
Sitaram: I also have that need occasionaly
Carlito3rd: I am not disagreeing
Carlito3rd: it is comfortable to me to learn your beliefs
Sitaram: I simply mention that I do not seek to impose anything on you
Carlito3rd: so I may augment m y own
Carlito3rd: you are not. be at peace
Carlito3rd: I feel no imposition whatsoever
Sitaram: it is obvious... and this point in history... that unanimous agreement will never be reached by all mankind on any number of religious, philosophical, political... issues
Carlito3rd: well hopefully we can reach it upon a political level some day
Sitaram: so.. there is a certain vainess in peoples efforts to..."convert" one another...
Carlito3rd: through perfect information and limitaion of ignorance
Sitaram: Kurt Godel... around 1930... demonstrated that even Mathematics... by its very nature.. has no hope of reaching a... final state of completeness
Carlito3rd: yea it is very difficult to change another's mind
Carlito3rd: because of infinity, no?
Sitaram: it is important to become familiar with Kurt Godel... no... not infinity
Carlito3rd: however , I believe that through more understanding and more knowledge of the the truth then there will be less conflict
Sitaram: Kurt Godel proved that there are mathematical TRUTHS... which cannot be proven true in the context of a finite axiomatic system....
Carlito3rd: hmm
Sitaram: it was suspected that Fermat's last equation.... that x to the nth power plus y to the nth power equals z to the nth power.... has no non trivial solutions.........
Carlito3rd: well this has just passed out of my limits of cognition
Sitaram: it was only in the past 10 yrs.. that someone PROVED Fermats last equation...
Carlito3rd: transitive property
Sitaram: but.. that proof took 10 years.. and is 400 pages long
Carlito3rd: ok
Sitaram: anyway.... in dialogues of Plato... Socrates always points to "eternal" truths of euclidean geometry....
Carlito3rd: right
Carlito3rd: let's discuss non-euclidean geometry
Sitaram: to prove the immortality of the soul.... (but by immortality... socrates means that it has ALWAYS existed... not that it has a beginning in time.. but is immortal.. as christian concept
Sitaram: well.. thats exactly the point
Carlito3rd: one which is the concept that everything is in cirlces an spheres
Sitaram: until 19th century.. and Lobachevski
Carlito3rd: H
Carlito3rd: ah
Sitaram: it was assumed that Euclidian Geometry was the "absolute truth" regarding our experience of spatial extension
Carlito3rd: right
Sitaram: except that the 5th Postulate.... (postulo in latin means "I demand".. that you accept this as self evident)
Sitaram: it was felt that the 5 Postulate regarding parallel lines.. could be "proved" as a theorem
Carlito3rd: then the possibility that non=euclidean geometry existed. that of circles, cylcles and spheres
Carlito3rd: as upossed to straight lines
Sitaram: but... when Lobachevski "assumed" that they met at infinity... hoping to reason to a contradiction.. and hence a "reductio ad absurdum"
Carlito3rd: but then infinity would have no end but be a continuous cirlce
Sitaram: well.. instead... to other axiomatic systems.... hyperbolic... and ellipitical.... evolved.... all equally capable of expresing our experience of space.. within the limits of instrument accuracy.... but.. mutually contradictory
Sitaram: so... mathematica truth was no longer to be understood as absolute.. but as realtive to some self consistent finite axiomatic system
Carlito3rd: ah
Sitaram: axiom is a greek word meaning "worthy"... something worthy to be accepted as apriori self-evident.. without proof
Carlito3rd: developed within the human understanding
Sitaram: a finite axiomatic system... posits or demans... a finite number of axioms and postulates
Carlito3rd: a theory of sorts
Sitaram: demands not demans
Carlito3rd: axiom similar to theory
Sitaram: so... it gets rather complicated.. rather quickly.. but....
Carlito3rd: must consult my stephen hawking brief history of time
Sitaram: if you throw in Hiesenbergs uncertainty theorem.. and a few other things...
Carlito3rd: I know that
Sitaram: well.... the dreams which Decartes and Kant.. and such people had.. of a teleological "end"... for mathematics,... metaphysical inquiry... etc...
Carlito3rd: hiesenbergs theorem proved in a way that life could not exist on earth without devine intervention becuase the chances would be impossible
Sitaram: we now know at least... why that end... can never be...
Sitaram: so.. these are interesting... "food for though"...
Sitaram: thought
Carlito3rd: yes
Carlito3rd: are you there?
Sitaram: yes
Sitaram: I think its the access number.. I switched to a manhattan one
Carlito3rd: what michael chrichton books have you read?
Sitaram: just now...
Carlito3rd: manhattan?
Sitaram: ive never read any.. but I did see the movie jurassic park
Sitaram: I am fond of dinosaurs
Carlito3rd: I see so you are right within New York city?
Carlito3rd: haha I as well woiuld be amazed
Sitaram: brooklyn,,... is part of NYC.. one of the 5 burroughs
Carlito3rd: ah right of course
Sitaram: if I stay in a 718 area code... I can local call to brooklyn queens, bronx.... so I have 6 or so 718 access numbers
Carlito3rd: hmmm
Sitaram: but I have 2 manhattan 212 access numbers.. which cost 15 cents for each call
Carlito3rd: to feel the life there
Sitaram: but the 212 numbers sometimes seem more reliable
Carlito3rd: must be chaotic
Sitaram: one grows accustomed
Carlito3rd: ant favorite jaunts?
Sitaram: I dislike cars.. so I have a subway.. and a car is unnecessary
Carlito3rd: right
Sitaram: I am 20 minutes by subway from union square... 14th street.. and 5th avenue
Carlito3rd: nice
Sitaram: so.. I enjoy that neighborhood... I spend most of my time there
Carlito3rd: any favorite carryouts nearby?
Carlito3rd: I would have a little garden on my windowsill
Sitaram: in this brooklyn neighborhood... there are mostly a few crack dealers.. and a bodega grocery store on every corner... not much to.. endear one to the neighborhood
Sitaram: I am a vegetarian.. so... not much food in this neighborhood
Sitaram: but I am not very strict.. so I will eat cheese pizza
Sitaram: and... I will eat things that have egg in it....
Sitaram: manhattan has more vegetarian places.. but it is expensive
Carlito3rd: Sorry I was afk again
Carlito3rd: what is a bodega?
Sitaram: thats ok
Sitaram: it is a spanish word for little grocery store
Carlito3rd: ah
Sitaram: at least I have always assumed it is a spanish word
Carlito3rd: I should know that
Carlito3rd: it is
Sitaram: aha
Carlito3rd: go to the bookstore and find a big vegetarian cookbook
Sitaram: I live in the middle of a huge hispanic section
Carlito3rd: I am also vegetarian
Sitaram: really... interesting
Carlito3rd: hispanics are very exciting people. Good dancers and know how to party. LIke family
Sitaram: this is true.... hot blooded..was the description used years ago.... hot blooded latin
Carlito3rd: they feel oppressed in this country though as they are but usually only by police
Carlito3rd: it is blacks that get it from everywhere
Sitaram: it seems one can notice characteristics peculiar to different groups... I spend lots of time with people of indian ancestry (guyanese) in the hindu temple.... and there are many orthodox and hasidic jews.. another group
Carlito3rd: hispanics problem is they think they are being opressed when really they are respected as long as they are not defensive
Sitaram: and.. I am around a lot of asians...
Carlito3rd: Inidians are beautiful people
Sitaram: I seem to notice characteristics.... qualities.. unique to each group...
Sitaram: I am basically.. very germanic... in my heritage... I mean genetically
Carlito3rd: Hispanics are actually very respectable people
Carlito3rd: more so than our own culture
Sitaram: I have a lot of dutch ancestry... but I use the word dutch ... rather than german... to avoid the possible stigma of nazi germany
Carlito3rd: they don't believe in divorce or sex before matrimony and take good care of their daughters. Families are very tight
Carlito3rd: yes that was not so good time in our history
Sitaram: but... although I never learned german language... and have never been to germany.. and the ancestral connection is generations.. back... I feel very "german"...
Sitaram: its funny... how certain things are "in our blood" so to speak
Carlito3rd: Germany now is beautiful, at least in bavaria
Carlito3rd: yes
Sitaram: when one stops to thing.. it was the german military prowess which cause ancient rome to fall... the barbarians were germanic
Sitaram: and add to that.. wwI and WWII...
Sitaram: military ability seems to be ... somehow .. genetic
Sitaram: ... but also.. the preoccupation with order and discipline... and obedience... wheter it is in military.. or academic pursuits...
Carlito3rd: well the anglos drove them out of britain led by a woman Bodessa
Sitaram: the german scholars were more aggressive and effective in ancient greek scholarship.. than any native greek has ever been... (ironically)
Sitaram: someone recently commented... "why do people speak so much about german military.. since they lost the last two wars"...
Carlito3rd: yes the nazi Sturmbahnfurer were the most elete of all warriors stopping at nothing uin WW!!
Sitaram: but .. I think the point is.. they have make a lot of trouble .. for a small nation...
Carlito3rd: good point
Sitaram: I guess my only real point is that... I feel this... kindred spirit.. even though I have never been there.. and the connection is generations old...
Carlito3rd: and became too big for their britches
Sitaram: but... amongst the indian peoples.. I sense... some of the qualities of Ghandi....
Carlito3rd: should have slowed down a little and taken one country at a time and left the poor jews alonwe
Sitaram: ... some of the qualities that one finds unique to Buddhist, Hindu, Jain....
Sitaram: and.. when you get to know Jews.. and understand what they mean when they say... "Talmudic mind"....
Carlito3rd: the British knew what they were doing but I think grew bored of it
Sitaram: well.. being Jewish is its own world of qualities... being German is another world... and being Indian.. or perhaps one should say Aryan-Dravidian... is another different world
Carlito3rd: Indian people are beautiful people
Sitaram: im fond of them.. obviously...
Carlito3rd: the women are very beautiful
Sitaram: yes
Carlito3rd: both very calm and docile, likeable
Carlito3rd: nonviolent or competitive
Sitaram: true
Carlito3rd: rather nonviolent and noncompetitive
Carlito3rd: is what I meant
Carlito3rd: sorry
Sitaram: one day... the Buddha was seated near the house of a wealthy man... beggin his food... and the wealthy man came out and begin to insult him
Sitaram: but.. the Buddha remained very calm...
Sitaram: and.. the wealthy man became increasingly angry and abusive
Sitaram: but.. Buddha had an apple that someone had given him...
Carlito3rd: ah yes
Sitaram: so.. he held up the apple to the rich man and said
Sitaram: "If I give you this apple.. and you accept it... whose apple is it
Sitaram: the wealthy man said.... "Why my apple .. of course
Sitaram: but... Budda said "If I offer it to you and you do not accept it.. THEN whose apple is it
Sitaram: "Why.. then its YOUR apple.. of course...
Carlito3rd: :
Carlito3rd: :)
Sitaram: so.. then budda said.. "You offer me anger and insults... but I do not accept them... so the anger.. the insult remains YOURS
Sitaram: so.. the wealthy man was astounded by the realization... of why he was becoming more and more angry
Carlito3rd: :)
Carlito3rd: I am happy you forgive me friend
Sitaram: forgive you.. what did you do.. I was just thinking about that story from life of Buddha
Carlito3rd: think carefully upon it
Sitaram: I cant even remember now.. what made me think of it.. I tried to scroll back just now...
Carlito3rd: read it again
Sitaram: I was in yahoo religion chat thismorning
Carlito3rd: :)
Sitaram: and here is what I had thought of there:...
Sitaram: remember the parable of the foolish virgins, who did not take enough oil for their lamps.. and the wise virgins,... who took enough oil to last until the Bridegroom came..... they WERE ALL VIRGINS..(i.e. had purity)... BUT... in greek the word for OIL is almost identical to the word for MERCY... so... purity is necessary ... but not sufficient
Sitaram: someone had mentioned about wealthy people entering heaven only with difficulty
Carlito3rd: yes
Sitaram: someone else mentioned that bill gates just gave a large sum to charity
Carlito3rd: :)
Sitaram: and a third said... "Well bill gates does not seem like a devil
Carlito3rd: :)
Sitaram: the implication being.. that if you are not a devil... then you are good.. and you go to heaven
Sitaram: but in the parable of the wise and foolish virgins.. is a different notion
Sitaram: since they are all virgins
Carlito3rd: it is nice to be a virgin
Sitaram: so a certain kind of purity is necessary.. but not sufficient
Carlito3rd: right, there are other purities
Sitaram: the point about socrates and geometry.. how socrates tried to use apriori knowledge of eternal truths about triangles and circles.. to prove that the soul has always existed
Carlito3rd: yes
Sitaram: such an eastern concept of eternal soul... is different from judaeo-christian concept of a soul which is created at conception (there is a verse in psalms which discribes souls creation)... but which lives forever...
Sitaram: that which is truly eternal.. has no beginning in time
Carlito3rd: I read psalms
Sitaram: that which has a beginning.. but no end... is immortal.. but not eternal
Sitaram: I have something in my website about that
Sitaram: I cant remember the exact words at the moment...
Sitaram: but something about... "how can that which is eternal... need saving..."
Sitaram: now.. I am curious to go back and see how I said it..
Carlito3rd: hmm tell me when you can
Sitaram: well.. I have the web page index up.. its one of the recent additions
Carlito3rd: remember the parable of the wealthy man and the apple?
Carlito3rd: that you told me?
Sitaram: yes
Carlito3rd: I am glad
Sitaram: oh.. you like that...
Carlito3rd: you tell me it because you have forgiven me. That I a, grateful for
Carlito3rd: a, = am
Sitaram: I am not conscious of having been angry...
Carlito3rd: oh you seemed it at the time
Carlito3rd: :)
Sitaram: I have certain problems with short term memory.. simply tell me what it was.. while I glance at these web pages
Carlito3rd: it is not short term
Carlito3rd: it is past perhaps 2 weeks ago
Sitaram: just tell me... what you are thinking
Carlito3rd: it will occur to you
Sitaram: hmmm.. are you charles
Carlito3rd: yes I am
Sitaram: aha... I had seen these strange messages.. one of them was mcharlie... something.. and after I declined it.. I realized it must have been you
Carlito3rd: Carlitos is Spanish for Charlie
Sitaram: so.. does this mean I can reinstate web page number 17
Sitaram: it now skips from 16 to 18
Carlito3rd: of cousr my friend. I am smiling
Sitaram: well.. very good.. so are you feeling better about your problems... or shouldnt I ask
Carlito3rd: yes
Sitaram: you see.. the wisdom of king solomon.. "this too shall pass
Carlito3rd: they are past and I am now talking to a normal young lady who shockingly is white
Sitaram: of course.. that brings us sadness. if we hear it when we are happy.. because it means the happiness will pass as well
Carlito3rd: and lives about 20 minutes away fro me
Carlito3rd: ah it is ok
Carlito3rd: happiness will apss unto contentness
Sitaram: well.. this sounds like a very healthy wise move on your part
Sitaram: I didnt start accepting these strange internet IM's until a few days ago.. when one screen name was obviously Hindu
Carlito3rd: thankyou
Carlito3rd: ah
Sitaram: now I realize that some people use it to maintain their anonymity
Carlito3rd: indeed
Sitaram: and also.. there is no notify button to notify AOL
Carlito3rd: right, many are pronographic though
Sitaram: well.. I also realized that.. no real harm can come from accepting an IM...
Sitaram: but.. I dont download any attached file... unless I know the person...
Carlito3rd: Well they didn't name the perfume obsession for no reason you know. Obsession in love is normal but now it has passed
Sitaram: because of viruses
Carlito3rd: ah
Carlito3rd: are you well?
Sitaram: yes... I keep browsing those pages
Sitaram: looking for that passage
Carlito3rd: Well just keep in mind that parable or the wealthy man, the apple, and buddy. Remember I never was angry at you. Take care my friend. I am going now
Sitaram: I think I have it... page 26
Sitaram: bye bye
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