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those sweaty, muscular young Turks hustling up and down
the grass, running, jumping, slipping, sliding and
dunking... Well, it gets my imagination going a mile a
minute". That is what Hank wrote in the
discussion Mister Ertan from the Netherlands started on
2/10/2001.Abuse of oilwrestlers in homo-porno
I like you to know that pictures of Turkish
oilwrestlers are in gaymagazines, without even asking the
oilwrestler asking their permission to publish their pics
in these magazines of WITHOUT paying them.
The only people that make money are the photographers and
the sellers of this porno, altough oilwrestlers and the
sport have nothing to do with it. Is this normal? Does
this happen in others sports too?

Porno-wrestlers
Maria from Greece on 2/12/01
This is not a common problem in sport. Sad for the
athletes who are victimized and misused by those creaps.
But once the wrestlers know who are making those
photographs for the homo-porno magazines, they can take
action. First: ban those freaks from the arena. Publish
their names and let your federation known who they are,
so they can ban them for live. And sue them. When they
make money with your picture, you should make more money
than they do!
Their manhood is too much for the gays
Braslov on 2/13/01:
It is just that those macho hunks are too much for the
gay people. When they see this, they can´t controll
their hormones.
Screw those people
Ilhan on 2/18/01:
They mix up sport with porno? Chaise those crazy out
of our sport!
They give this beautiful sport a bad name
Mustafa on 3/6/01:
From my ten years Kirkpinar experience I know this
people are always around. They say there that they make
pictures to promote the sport and later you find them in
their randy magazines between cocksuckers. But there is
little you can do about it as oilwrestler, as it is
almost impossible to meet the expenses to pay a lawyer to
sue these guys in Europe or America.
Gays and Turkish oil wrestlers
Murat on 3/20/01:
Gays want to have Turkish oil wrestlers to "play
their thing" on the Gay Games:
home.gay.com/pehlivan/files/index.htm
Can't help being turned on by Turkish oil wrestler
Hank on 3/20/01:
Seeing those heavy legs in leather pants at Amsterdam
Mokum TV gives me chills. I know they're all hung longer
than a telephone pole, and I can't help being turned on
by them. All those sweaty, muscular young Turks hustling
up and down the grass, running, jumping, slipping,
sliding and dunking.
Well, it gets my imagination going a mile a minute,
picturing all that fresh meat bouncing around in their
kispet-pants. You know what they say about the tall ones.
I'd love to get slam-dunked by a Turkish 7-footer!
Hank
What a bunch of ignorant homophobic !
ck1 on 3/26/01:
First of all, the people who are responsible (the
photographer and publisher) may not even be GAY ! Even if
they were, why the entire gay community is blamed for
their lack of ethic in the pornographic publishing
industry ? What's up with the name calling. . .
"freaks", "crazy",
"cocksuckers" What century are you people
living in ?? Do you still burn witches in your village ??
What they did to the Turkish wrestlers is no different
than what they do to women in straight porn mags. Big
titties in bathing suits were hunted and displayed
without permissions from the "headless" ladies.
What they did to the Kirkpinar sport is no different than
what they do to boxing in straight porn videos. Two girls
boxing in the boxing ring until they both got naked in a
made-for-straight-men-lesbian scene which ended with a
straight man to the rescue.
The problem is, all men are pigs (like Hank, but at least
he is honest) ! Doesn't matter gay or straight men most
of them just love their "meat" big (melon
shapes for the straights and stick shape for the homos)
and unless you can swear that you have never read a porn
mag in your entire life ! You are one of the paid (yeah,
you borrow yours from a friend) supporters of the
pornographic industry.
The bottomline is, there is nothing wrong with the
pornographic publishing industry, there is nothing wrong
with the gay community. However, there is something
really wrong here on how some of the people reacted to
the original question: Is this normal? Does this happen
in others sports too? The correct is: No, this kind of
practice is adnormal because it is simply illegal. And
yes, it does happen in other sports too. END OF STORY !
If all these are too much for those "meat
heads" to disgest and
understand. Please go hunt for more witches for your
entertainment this evening.
Thank you for reading and goodbye.
ck1
Turkish men in porno magazines
Murat on 4/2/01:
Dear Mr (or Miss?) ck1,
You say that what they do to the Turkish wrestlers is no
different than what they do to women in straight porn
mags. Big titties in bathing suits were hunted and
displayed without permissions from the
"headless" ladies. Right, "headless".
But what I saw were manipulated pictures where the bulge
in the leather pants were made bigger as on the original
picture. And those guys were anything but
"headless".
So, what you say is bullshit and for sure different as
what they do with your headless lassies on a beach.
It makes no sense when you try to tell that what tose
cocksuckers did to the Kirkpinar sport is no different
than "what they do to boxing in straight porn
videos."
O yes, it sure is different. When two girls boxing in the
boxing ring "until they both got naked" in a
made-for-straight-men-lesbian scene. To me and most oil
wrestlers this is not the same as a traditional
oilwrestling match, where you will be the looser as they
rip your pants or show your "meat". I never
heard such a nonsence. What makes you think that the
oilwrestlers are all gay and a match ends with a straight
man to the rescue?
Back to the original question: Does this happen in others
sports too?
You say that the "correct" answer is "No,
this kind of practice is adnormal because it is simply
illegal."
Not because it is illegal or that gays get exited by the
sight of sturdy oil wrestlers, just because they use your
picture, manupulate them on the computer and say:
"Look, it is ART" and they added an enourmous
penis hanging out of the kisbet (leather pants).
No matter what you think about gay/not gay, how would you
feel that you were pictured during a public sportmatch
and find yourself heavy manipulated back in one of those
filthy magazines between guys involved in things like
"fistfucking" and "rimming party".
You say that people who do not consider this normal have
no right to think so. Well I do think so. But we never
burned witches in our villages. Burning witches was a
christian activity.
Yes, I can swear that I have never read a porn mag in my
entire life! Exept ones, when I was told I was in there
as "Meaty Murat".
Just going in such a "bookshop" and ask for
that magazine was a complete new experiment to me. I´m
not used to this kind of things. In my village we lack te
possibilities to hang around with pimps or travestites.
What we had and have was TRADITIONAL oilwrestling. For
centuries the place where the STRONGEST men compete. I
consider myself to be lucky that we do not have a
"bookshop" in our village where that magazine
is sold.
That has nothing to do with gay or so, but with honour
and the tradition of our sport. I think that it is heavy
bad when people make "art" of my pictures in
this manor.
If you do not understand all these thinks, why don´t you
turn back to you OWN TRADITION and hunt for more witches
for your "entertainment".
I will not say what I will do whenever I get hands on the
guy who pictured and manipulated me to "Meaty
Murat" me this evening. Do not worry, I will not
burn him.
Thank you for reading,
Murat.
Huh ???!!!
ck1 on 4/2/01:
First of all, I was not address my post to YOU
personally and I only responded to what I read in the
English version of this thread. I had no idea they made
you a HUNK and all.
However, you are missing the whole point !
The boxing girls and the beach thing are just examples.
They could have heads in those photos too ! or instead of
boxing, it could happen in a hospital...the sexy female
doctor... well we don't have to go there in details. What
I was trying to say is PORN just like any story telling
will have to take place somewhere (right?!) and the
people happen to be related to that "somewhere"
will complaint about it because PORN made it dirty...
Fine ! You can yell PORN is bad, PORN is wrong since you
had never paid for any. But you still have NO RIGHT to
judge others on how they choose to live or how to have
sex.
Normal !? well... what is normal ? Some people live in
the part of the world where water goes into the drain in
clockwise direction and the other half of the world house
the people experience the opposite. So, which half is the
NORMAL world ? If you didn't know that I can swear that
is the truth ! I am not trying to tell you more NONSENSE.
By the way, I have never said all oilwrestlers are gay.
Where did you see that ?
I can understand that could be a terrible experience. If
that happened to me ? Two possibilities: ONE: I will
gladly accept my new sex symbol status and have a laugh
about it. TWO: I will seek legal action towards the
people who are responsible to this horrible act. In the
US, many many law firms will sue someone for you without
you paying them any fee unless you won the case and they
take a big chunk of the money you win from the lawsuit.
It might not be the case where you are but I am sure you
could find volunteer especially with the help of the
internet. So stop bitching and blaming the entire gay
community for what happened to you.
OH, the witch burning thing was an example too ! I was
actually saying how mentally backward those people are.
So it doesn't matter if you are "Christian" or
not.
I think you should cut his balls off if you caught that
guy who GAVE you the giant penis. If you don't I will
because he made you hate every single gay person on earth
! But what if he is not gay ? or what if it's a SHE !?
Damn ! I hate to make things complicated to the simple
folks.
I am not like that at all as you say
Murat on 4/3/01:
Dear Miss or Mr. CK1.
I am mentally backward because I do not want to be
pictured, manipulated and published without knowledge as
a porno star? You just want me to be something I am not.
I´m a Pehlivan and do not want things to be complicated.
I am into sport.
But what on earth made you think that I am bitching and
blaming the entire gay community for what happened to me?
Or that I hate every single gay person on earth? You know
my friends?
not you again !
ck1 on 4/3/01:
Once again, you are taking what I said
"personally" !
If you read my first post carefully. I was targeted my
"witch burning" (explain to you in my second
post as "mentally backward") comment to the
people who used words like "freaks",
"crazy", "cocksuckers" etc to
discribe GAY people in this forum. I wasn't talking about
you ! Take a chill pill already Big Guy
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