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008.007 and Allah willed that he should cause the truth to triumph by his
words, and cut theroot of the disbelievers; 008.008 that he might cause
the truth to triumph and bring vanity tonaught, however much the guilty
might oppose;
-----

insha'allaah this we will see herein.

please share copies
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>>
to: navali@fcmail.com
subject: preliminary answer to abdul malik a. valla
from: "qari faizullah ;"
date: wed, 10 may 2000 13:56:12 +0500

[full text below, navali]
>>
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dear qari faizullah

salaamun alaykum,

thank you most kindly for forwarding me a copy of your unsolicited but
interesting communication addressed to one "abdul valla" .

although he can and will, i am sure, address your FALSE concerns or
frustrations more adequately, please allow me to give you my 2 cents
in this hasty reply because i am about to leave for overseas again --
in fact, i have just returned from kenya, east africa.

 rest assured, you have expressed nothing new therein. rather, you have
merely echoed akbarally meherally's endless anti-islamic and anti-quranic
rhetoric and diatribe -- with more passion, if i may. you have also used
his selective material and language flowered with your words of
INSINCERITY AND HYPOCRISY.

hence, i dictate some kind of collusion between yourselves. but then,
not only will Allah establish the truth by his words but also if he has
chosen to keep you all -- _B_L_I_N_D_ -- then so be it. here's
what i mean:

you wrote:

 >>

mr.valla writes:

"let me begin with your e-mail address. it begins with 'esoteric'
but esoteric is not your path. i have a suggestion that you should
switch from esoteric to exoteric. your path is exoteric."

we took the id for our e-mails as esoteric, only because under
the garb and veil of ESOTERIC TEACHINGS, the unwary
fellow muslims are fleeced/robbed away of their
faith and wealth and are misguided.

for example if we consider that verses/ayats of the quran has a
different meaning than the evident one, then, the natural corollary
to this belief is: (nauzobillah) Allah, The Prophet, and his followers known
in the history as asshab-i-rasool, including hazrat ali, **_C_H_E_A_T_E_D_
** the ummahal- muslimah, of their time and for all the times to come,
by conveying, obeying and styling their lives according to the exoteric,
i. e. the evident /zaheri instructions /meaning of the quran. nauzobillah.

[emphasis added, navali]

>>

NAVALI: believe me, the insatiable akbarally meherally has also
voiced similar arguments for ages now but to no avail.

regardless, your above allegations tantamount to BELYING Allah, 
the Holy Prophet (Sas), Hazrat Ali (As), The Holy Qur'an And The True
Islam revealed therein, not to speak of all those who have followed
the NOORANI-- ESOTERIC--INTERPRETATIVE OR SUFI ISLAM
for over 14 centuries now.

rest assured, a hypocritical *nauzobillah* -- will not exonerate you in
way, shape or form because you have ACCUSED **ALLAH, THE
PROPHET, and his followers known in the history as asshab-i-rasool,
including hazrat ali, of CHEATING the ummahal- muslimah  of their
time and for all the times to come ...**

this is a very powerful, accusatory and audacious statement coming
from the people who claim be true muslims and defenders or propagators
of islam in its prestine purity. please don?t blame Allah and His Beloved
Rasul and the Ahl Al-Bait [pbuth] for your own shortcomings and
incomprehension of the holy qur?an even at its elementary level.

and although you, sir claim to be a qari--reciter of the holy qur'an, it
seems to me that you do not have adequate knowledge thereof to
understand what you are reciting, might I add, like a parrot. says Allah
regarding such people:

062.005 the likeness of those who are entrusted with the law of moses,
yet apply it not, is as the likeness of the ass carrying books. wretched
is the likeness of folk who deny the REVELATIONS OF ALLAH. and Allah
guideth not wrongdoing folk.
-----

 NAVALI:  allow me to explain the above verse in this precise context
because you have taken upon yourself/ves to wrangle about the
REVELATIONS OF ALLAH without any authority from him:

 040.035 those who wrangle concerning THE REVELATIONS OF ALLAH
without any warrant that hath come unto them, it is greatly hateful in
the sight of Allah and in the sight of those who believe. thus doth
Allah print on every arrogant, disdainful heart.
------

 having said that, allow me now to explain briefly the matter re:

 you wrote:

>>
hazarat ali was lethally attacked while he was performing namaz and was
blessed with shahadat. please let me know do you offer these canonical
namaz as in the way hazrat ali was offering these namaz, which was the
sunnat method to offer namaz from which he never, deviated?
>>

 NAVALI: although the underlying message and question [do you offer
these canonical namaz]; is obvious in the above para, dear *mr. qari ?
reciter of the qur?an* -- it is obvious from this multifarious and deceptive
question that you have no knowledge of the holy qur?an per se, and that
you only recite it in a parrat like fashion ? without any real understanding
thereof.

Allah clearly speaks of ISLAM and more so, the SIRAATAL MUSTAQIIM
-- AS THE HOLY IMAM?S [SA] RELIGION therein, to which the holy
prophet himself (sas) was guided. see 2:124,125,129,130; 3:95-97;
4:125; 6:83-91; 6:162-3; 16:120-123, etc.

a.       PROOF

pickthal: say: Allah speaketh truth. so follow THE RELIGION OF ABRAHAM
[IMAM], the upright. he was not of the idolaters.

b.       PROOF

013.038-39
yusufali:  FOR EACH PERIOD IS A BOOK [KITAB] (revealed).
yusufali: Allah doth blot out or confirm what he pleaseth: with him is the
mother of the book.

comm:  #1863 ?  i have translated ?a book (revealed)?, but it also
means ?a lwa decreed? or a decree established.? ultimately the meaning
is the same FOR EACH AGE, according to Allah?s wisdom THIS MESSAGE
IS RENEWED  [pp. 600]
.---

NAVALI:  well there we go! islam is not a dead religion of the past as
you would have us believe. it is a UNIVERSAL RELIGION of the past,
present and future ? but ever current in its eternal concept.

ONLY THE HOLY IMAM [SA] of the age and time, gives it that CURRENT
MODE OR LIFE by interpreting the faith according to the changing times,
and as such, THE 3 TIMES DU?A PER DAY is a part of that change, as
well! see 11:114, 21:73; 25:74,77; 40:50,66 & 20:132.

 PROOF

[from abraham to aga khan, -- akbarally meherally, pp. 35].

 secondly, the interpretations could never be uniform or in a form that
is universally acceptable. therefore, God's Proclamation Of 'Imam'
And Its Succession, 'Seed After Seed' continuing with mankind, guiding
it along with the holy books in accordance with the needs of the day,
is the most logical and perfect.
----

NAVALI: these qur?anic verses per se, show without a shadow of the
doubt why ismailism is fluid under the guidance of the holy imam [sa]
and not petrified in time or carved in stone like most of your sunnah
practices ? which ARE NOT even based on the holy qur?an itself, as i
have shown often in the past.

you wrote:

>>
note about valla?s answer: mr. valla, we are ready to answer each
and every point. i have noted that at many points you are emotional
rather than ready to digest the bitter truth. it appears to me that
you are not a well-read person nor you have read the quran in way
that is its right. at the same time let me ask you whether it is
possible for you to tolerate certain fantastic situation, which may
not be of your choice? one of such situation i have discussed in answer
to your point raised viz. esoteric and exoteric.

[emphasis mine, navali]
>>

NAVALI: did you sirs, know that ESOTERIC ISLAM HAD BEEN very
much a part and parcel of islam since its inception? obviously, you should
or must, because the verses pertaining to the aforesaid are still in the
holy qur'an. we did not put them there. therefore, look at the face
value of the verses only and tell us what do they mean outwardly --
since you do not accept their inner meanings?

PROOF
016.106 whoso disbelieveth in Allah after his belief - save him who is
forced  thereto and whose heart is still content with the faith -

PROOF
040.028 and a believing man of pharaoh's family, who hid his
faith, said: would ye kill a man because he saith: my lord is Allah,
and hath brought you manifest proofs from your lord ?
------------

NAVALI: please tell us at your elementary level of comprehension, as
to what is the real meaning of these verses and why did Allah permit
such a hidden practice in islam since times immemorial? would this divine
exhortation apply to OUR SECT IN ISLAM which had been persecuted
for the  most part of its existence?

now let us turn to another phase of islam which you have vehemently
denied and Accused Allah And His Rasul of **_C_H_E_A_T_I_N_G_**
the muslim ummah, as noted above.

PROOF
a.   003.007 he it is who hath revealed unto thee (muhammad) the
scripture wherein are clear revelations - they are the substance of
the book - and others (which are) allegorical. but those in whose
hearts is doubt pursue, forsooth, that which is allegorical seeking
(to cause) dissension by seeking to EXPLAIN IT--TAWIILIH. NONE
KNOWETH ITS EXPLANATION-TAWIILAHUU -- SAVE ALLAH.
AND THOSE WHO ARE OF SOUND KNOWLEDGE -- RAASIKHUUNA
FIL ILMI -- say: we believe therein; the whole is from our lord; but
only men of understanding really heed.
.---

NAVALI: please note that the gist of this qur'anic verse per se,
indicates plainly that some verses of the holy scripture are allegorical
in content as such, are subject to various interpretations, right,
wrong or otherwise -- depending on the person's intent.

more importantly, if those of the sound knowledge -- RAASIKHUUNA
FIL ILMI ? [also known by other names ? see 4:162, 10:94; 22:54;
16:43-45; 21:07; 34:6; 43:43-45], 'know that this is all from their
Lord-Allah,' - then it would be fair to assume that they too, must
have had knowledge enough to UNDERSTAND AND INTERPRET the
holy qur'an by the holy qur'an only - since Allah himself had given them
that knowledge, otherwise ASKING THE HOLY PROPHET (SAS) TO
REFER TO THEM, IF HE DID NOT KNOW OR WAS IN DOUBT
ABOUT ANY MATTER  -- would be futile or meaningless, to say the
least. allow me to give an example. Allah adds:

 PROOF
012.006 thus thy lord will prefer thee and will teach thee the
INTERPRETATION OF events - wa yu-allimuka MIN TAWIILIL
'ahaadiisi, and will perfect his grace upon thee and upon the FAMILY
of jacob as he perfected it upon thy forefathers, ABRAHAM and
isaac. lo! thy lord is knower, wise.

PROOF
012.101 o my lord! thou hast given me of sovereignty and hast taught
me of the INTERPRETATION OF events - wa allamtanii MIN
TAWIILI ahaadisii. creator of the heavens and the earth! thou art
my protecting guardian in the world and the hereafter. make me to
DIE MUSLIM  (unto thee), and join me to the righteous.
------

NAVALI:  please note the last sentence again!  it reads, *make me to
DIE MUSLIM (unto thee), and join me to the righteous.*

in other words, INTERPRETING THE FAITH OF ISLAM by the chosen
ones -- THE HOLY IMAMS [PBUTH] in this case, is very much a part
and parcel of the true faith. on the other hand, the holy qur?an also
asserts clearly that some people waited for the TAWIIL--
INTERPRETATION OR FULFILMENT of the scripture to come
to pass.

PROOF
010.039 nay, but they denied that, the KNOWLEDGE whereof they
could NOT COMPASS, and WHEREOF THE INTERPRETATION-
TAWIILUH -- hath not yet come unto them. even so did those before
them deny. then see what was the consequence for the wrong-doers!

PROOF  -- see also 7:52,53.
.----

NAVALI: i hope that your ongoing dispute is settled once and for all
from the holy qur'an only. but, if you are still dissatisfied with the
above then please consider the following from a reputable non-ismaili
muslim scholar, on the matter under discussion.  review the following
very carefully and address your disputes, if any to the author
concerned and not me:

PROOF

>>

tafsir (exegesis) of the qur'an is the most important science for
muslims. all matters concerning the islamic way of life are connected
to it in one sense or another since the right application of islam is
based on proper understanding of the guidance from Allah. without
tafsir there would be no right understanding of various passages
of the qur'an.

                                tafsir and _T_A_'W_I_L_

the word tafsir is derived from the root 'fassara' ? to explain, to
expound. it means 'explanation' or 'INTERPRETATION'. in technical
language the word TAFSIR IS USED FOR EXPLANATION,
INTERPRETATION AND commentary on the qur'an, comprising allways
of obtaining knowledge, which contributes to the proper understanding
of it, explains its meanings and clarifies its legal implications. [1] the
word mufassir (pl. mufassirun) is the term used for the person doing
the tafsir, i.e. the 'exegete' or 'commentator'.

 In technical language it similarly refers to explanation and
INTERPRETATION OF THE QUR'AN. tafsir in the language of the
scholars means explanation and clarification. it aims at knowledge and
understanding concerning the book of Allah, to explain its meanings,
extract

 Sources [3]

 the best tafsir is the explanation of the qur'an by the qur'an.

the next best is the explanation of the qur'an by the prophet muhammad,
who, as shafi'i explained, acted according to what he understood from
the qur'an.

if nothing can be found in the qur'an nor in the sunna of the prophet,
one turns to the reports from the sahaba. [4]

 if nothing can be found in the qur'an, the sunna and the reports from
the sahaba, one turns to the reports from the tabi'un. [5]

however, nothing can match the explanation
of the qur'an by the qur'an and the
explanation of the qur'an by the prophet.

[snip]

by this is meant all explanations of the qur'an which can be traced back
through a chain of transmission to a sound source, i.e.:

- the qur'an itself.
- the explanation of the prophet.
- the explanation by companions of the prophet (to some extent).

naturally, the explanation of the qur'an by the qur'an and the
explanation of the qur'an by the prophet are the two highest sources
for tafsir, which cannot be matched nor superseded by any other source.

next to these rank the explanations by the sahaba, since the sahaba
were witnesses to the revelations, were educated and trained by the
prophet himself and were closest to the period of the first muslim umma.

the qur'an explained by the qur'an. the interpretation of the qur'an
by the qur'an is the highest source of tafsir. many of the questions
which may arise out of a certain passage of the qur'an have their
explanation in other parts of the very same book, and often there is
no need to turn to any sources other than the word of Allah, which in
itself contains tafsir. to seek to explain an aya from the qur'an by
referring to another aya from the qur'an is the first and foremost duty
of the mufassir.only if this does not suffice, he will refer to other
sources of tafsir.'

7 itqan, ii, pp.181-2.

[emphasis mine, navali]
>>
----

>>
and, you know, that an infinite part of the sheer INTERPRETATION
OF ISLAM  IS THE RATIONAL PROCESS. AND I ATTACH
ENORMOUS IMPORTANCE to that because IT'S A SIGNIFICANT
PART OF THE WAY we live and work. so i encourage that.

>how would you be liked to be remembered as on four counts:
>first, as the imam, what would you have done to this community?

as the imam, i think it would be important to try to have been an
interpreter of the faith which enabled people to continue to look to a
spiritual world and  a world of faith, which is not only a material world.
i feel very, very strongly about that. so interpretative nature of the
role of the direction  it gives seems to me central to the nature of
the office that i have.

[The Aga Khan reflects on his legacy and on the rising need for social
entrepreneurship -- by pranay gupte -- earth times news service]
.---
>>

NAVALI: this matter needs no further elaboration because this is the
latest position of the Holy Imam [As] of the  Shia Imami Ismaili Muslim
Tariqah.

PROOF:
>>
                from abraham to aga khan --1982,
                        by akbaraly mehirnally
                       [aka akbarally maherally]

a similar mistake can also be observed in the translation, or rather
a difference of opinion in the interpretation, of the words 'furqan'
and 'imam'. in quran both these words are variably used by Allah for
a book as well as for a person. this dual meaning has created a
fundamental difference of opinion between the traditional sunni concept
of adherence to the quran 'a guide book' for all guidances, and the
shiah concept of obedience and loyalty to ali (imam) living guide' and
a supreme authority on the interpretations of the quran.
>>

NAVALI: please note that nothing has changed in islam, the holy qur'an
or the ismaili tariqah since 1982 except AKBARALLY MEHERALLY'S
faith and loyalty to islam and the holy qur'an. hence he was
excommunicated from this tariqah.

047.024 will they then not meditate on the qur'an, or are there
locks on the hearts? 047.025 lo! those who turn back after the
guidance hath been manifested unto them, SATAN HATH SEDUCED
THEM, and he giveth them the rein.
.----

NAVALI:  just before his excommunication he joined the rashad khalifa?s
cult and still later ithna'asharism and now qadianism -- as one can
clearly deduce from his website.

elsewhere you have asked:

*DO YOU BELIEVE IN QURAN?
if answer is yes then i ask: do you believe in the quran which the
muslim ummah possess in the book shape or he has faith in natiqul
quran  i.e. the speaking/talking quran viz. the SO CALLED imam aga
khan? our answer  can only BE BASED ON the written BOOK in the
shape and title of  the QURAN.*
.-----

NAVALI:  let me answer you by re-phrasing the above question:

*DO YOU BELIEVE IN QURAN?
if answer is yes then i ask: do you believe in the quran which the
muslim ummah possess in the book shape or ????? our answer can
only __be based on the written book__ in the shape and title of
the quran.*
.------

NAVALI:  let me ask you and your associates including akbarally
meherally some specific questions in the light of your questions or
interrogation.

a.     do you believe in the book called the holy qur'an?
b.    do you also believe in the follwing aayaats from it?

PROOF
c.     there is NO COMPULSION in religion. [ 2:256]
d.       002.272   the GUIDING of them is NOT THY DUTY (o
muhammad), but Allah guideth whom he will.

.-----

PROOF
042.052 and thus have we inspired in thee (muhammad) a SPIRIT of
our command.

i.     thou knewest not what the scripture was, nor what the faith.
ii.    BUT WE HAVE MADE IT A LIGHT--NUUR --
iii.   whereby WE GUIDE whom we will of OUR BONDMEN.

 NAVALI: please tell us what is the difference between the last two
verses just quoted? do they collaborate  or CONTRADICT each other???

If the later, do you see any other INNER OR ESOTERIC MEANING
therein or will you just continue to ACCUSE ALLAH AND HIS RASUL
(SAS) OF CHEATING the muslim ummah??? And then, just as easily
exonerate yourselves by pronouncing a simple meaningless, insincere
and hypocritical ?(nauzobillah)?!!

however, in my view, THE HOLY PROPHET (SAS) WAS NOT ALLOWED
to guide anyone unto exoteric or shariati islam -- the kind you have
chosen to follow.

but only  _A_F_T_E_R_  the holy prophet himself (sas) was guided to the
noorani--esoteric islam -- the RELIGION of the holy imam [sa] -- he
became its first dai, hadi, summoner or guide to sirataal mustaqiim,
a prerogative which otherwise, belonged to Allah alone!

please review the above and the following verses with some intelligence
and honesty, if you will:

PROOF:
006.161 say: lo! as for me, MY LORD HATH GUIDED ME unto a
straight path--SIRATAAL MUSTAQIIM, a right religion, THE
RELIGION OF ABRAHAM [IMAM], the upright, who was no idolater.

039.022 is he whose bosom Allah hath expanded for AL-ISLAM, so
that he followeth A LIGHT from his lord, (as he who disbelieveth)?
then woe unto those whose hearts are hardened against remembrance
of Allah. such are in MANIFEST--MUBIIN -- error.
------

please answer if you are kowlegeable or truthful. also, where in the
holy qur'an did Allah refer to it as *noorum mubiin*?? please note that
difference very carefully because -- Allah says that he has revealed a
MANIFEST PROOF and NOORUM MUBIIN like so:

PROOF
004.174 o mankind! now hath a MANIFEST PROOF from your lord
come unto you, and we have sent down unto you a NOORUM MUBIIN
--LIGHT MANIFEST; 004.175 as for those who believe in Allah,
and hold fast UNTO HIM--BIHII, them he will cause to enter into
his mercy and grace, and will guide them UNTO HIM--ILAYHI by
a straight road -- SIRAATAM MUSTAQIIMAA.
.---

NAVALI: please explain IN THE QUR?ANIC CONTEXT ONLY the difference
between:

why did Allah keep that distinction between these 2 words [phrases] if there was
none? allow me to quote your associate, if i may:

PROOF:        "from abraham to aga khan" -- 1982,   by akbaraly
                             mehirnally [aka akbarally maherally]

secondly, THE INTERPRETATIONS could never be uniform or in a form
that is universally acceptable. therefore, GOD'S PROCLAMATION OF
'IMAM' AND ITS SUCCESSION, 'SEED AFTER SEED' continuing with
mankind, guiding it along with the holy books in accordance with the
needs of the day, is the most logical and perfect.

1.   "o mankind! verily there has come to you a convincing proof from your
lord: and we have sent unto you a light (that is) manifest." (quran 4:174)

2.    in the chapter entitled 'light', Allah speaks of "light upon light"
(quran 24:35), which refers to an everabiding light, seed after seed.

"... those who believe in muhammad, honour him, help him and follow the
light which is sent DOWN WITH HIM". (quran 7:157)

in the above verses, and also in chapter 24,
'light'28 is not a reference to the quran
as some translators state. the words are send
DOWN "WITH HIM" and not "to him".

light (nur) and ouran (kitab) are identified as two separate
things by Allah. in chapter 5 verse 17, Allah says, "there hath
come to you from Allah a light and (also) a book manifest".
[pp. 37]

 god's acts and plans are perfect for today as well as for the
future... this generation [itrat] is referred to by prophet muhammad
as one of the two vital strand of the spiritual rope from Allah
(hablillah)*29, sent to mankind to abide forever.

NAVALI: so there we go.

please ask akbaraLy mehIRNally aka akbaraLLy mehERally to denounce
his above book before he starts any new arguments like a disbeliever,
liar and a hypocrite he is.

FINAL PROOF:
001.006-7 show us the straight path --  SIRATAAL MUSTAQIIM
-- the path of those -- SIRAATAL-LAZIINA

FINAL PROOF:

006.088 such is the guidance of Allah ......
006.089 those are they unto whom we gave the scripture and command
and prophethood.
006.090 THOSE ARE THEY WHOM ALLAH GUIDETH, SO FOLLOW
THEIR GUIDANCE.
.-------

NAVALI: well there we go! in the current Islamic dispensation, Allah
himself had joined every aspect of islam to the holy prophet?s
ahl al-bait [pbuth], in spite of the disbelievers.

WILL YOU BOTH NOW declare yourselves be non-muslims, in
accordance with your own criteria since you do not believe in the
book of Allah called the holy quran?

please allow me to quote you again in this regard, if i may:

i. * if one does not believe in the written book of Allah, the
quran, then one is not in the fold of islam. do you agree? ...

ii. "qari faizullah and akbarally meherally, please tell me whether it
is possible to digest such awkward and fantastic situation without
hurting you and other followers? i do not want to degrade any one of
them. on the contrary i pray to Allah to endow to all of us including
the whole of mankind, the ability to follow the commands of Allah and
the practice of the prophet as exemplified by hazrat ali."
--

NAVALI:  now sir, i challenge you to answer your own question, if you will!!!

i. * if one does not believe in the written book of Allah, the quran, then
one is not in the fold of islam. do you agree? ...
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for those of you who have missed part ii of this reply please go to this link:

http://members.fortunecity.com/navali/ismailism_quran_history.html

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