So the
question again is, "What are you doing with the numbers?"
MB: I
do not believe you!
I never
wrote any of this! I never thought of it at all. I drew a picture of
the road in my mind. I thought I wanted Ria living about a third of
the way down, and I just threw Colm at one end with his restaurant,
and Gertie with her launderette at the other. And I put the old people's
home in there. I just did it all at random, so if you see anything significant,
then we had all better hold on to something fast.
KS:
That's really not the answer I was expecting. I just assumed you meant
it.
MB: I never
thought about it at all. I write so quickly. I write like I talk. Once
somebody said to me, "You don't write better when you write slowly,"
and that was like a green light to me. If I write quickly I'll be finished.
It'll be done and I can go on to the next bit. I don't go back over
it, and my agent she's a bossy woman, she's even bossier than
I am always sees these things.
But she's
never seen anything about the numbers. So I'll tell her that now. She'll
be amazed that she hasn't spotted it. I shall tell everybody about it
and pretend I thought of it all by myself.
KS:
I'll back you up on it.
MB: You
can blackmail me later.
KS:
I'll be sure to keep the tape.
Well,
with that topic now deflated let's move on to the next question, which
concerns the figure of Mrs. Connor, a strange and ambiguous fortune
teller. Where does this character come from?
MB: Well,
I'll tell you where I got the idea of Mrs. Connor. I have a friend in
Ireland, a very successful hairdresser, and she told me that many of
her clients, who can afford chin-tucks and such, also go to this fortuneteller.
And she says, "You have no idea Maeve how much they pay her. They
pay her fifty to a hundred pounds, and they go out to her house, and
she's got no signs of wealth." And I asked her, "Have you
ever gone?" "No, I've never gone," she says, "I'd
be afraid to go." All of these women run their lives by her. It's
like the church was when we were young.
KS:
But none of this reflects your own beliefs, does it?
MB: Oh,
heaven's no. I believe entirely that we are responsible for our own
lives. I don't believe in God anymore. I don't believe in Heaven or
an afterlife. I believe we are here for a short time and that while
we're here we have control over our lives.
I was
on a French television program once called Apostrophe. The guy
was terribly, terribly, uh, what I would think of as pretentious, but
it was a huge honour to be on his program, and I speak very bad French
I speak French exactly the way I speak English: with an Irish
accent and very quickly. So, on this program he asked me what was my
philosophy of life. And I had never been asked my philosophy of life
ever. Here I was with maybe eight million viewers and I've got
no philosophy of life.
I knew
I had to answer and the thing going through my head was, "I don't
know anybody in France so it doesn't matter if I make a fool of myself."
But what was I going to say? And then I thought, "Well, say what's
true, don't you think?" So I said that my philosophy of life is
that we are dealt a hand and we have to play it.
I cannot
think of anything more banal to say, but whatever you're dealt you play.
In my case,
I was dealt the good family, the happy family, a secure background,
enough brains to scrape past my exams, enough money to pay for an education
at a time when you had to pay for education, and a cheery personality
because I was brought up in a happy home. That's the good side I was
dealt. On the bad side I was fat, and that's bad to be a girl and be
fat because that is unacceptable. We were always on the edge of having
enough money to get ahead, which sometimes is worse that being poor.
And then as I got older I got arthritis, very bad arthritis. So I was
lame and fat, and I was a school teacher which is not considered in
Ireland a hugely good job, and I didn't have a fella, and all these
things were bad. That was the bad hand, those were the poor cards that
were dealt.
What I
got out of it all and I'm not patting myself on the back, I've
made lots of mistakes along the way is that I've played that
hand for the best that I can do with it. And that's my philosophy in
life. And I wouldn't take any help from God. Even when I had a very
serious operation and was told that I could die, and a nice Chaplain
came in to me. "I'm just coming in as a matter of course now,"
he says, "and maybe you don't want anything to do with me."
"No, I don't," I said, "it wouldn't be fair, just because
I'm going in for an operation. I can't ask for something from some person
I haven't dealt with in over thirty years."
KS:
You are that rare breed, the atheist in the fox hole.
MB: That's
it. And I'm also the un-guilty one. When I decided to be the "atheist
in the fox hole," I decided, "That's it; I'm not going to
call on Him or Her or It in times of trouble." And
that's for fortunetellers, or for psychics, or any of the others. I
have such good friends who believe in a lot of things I don't believe
in at all...who believe in the healing powers of crystals...who believe
in lots of things, and they do believe in them.
When I
was very, very lame my friends were concerned about me. I was hardly
able to walk and was bent double, and they would tell me about Seventh
Sons and various healers and things with faith because these people
had actually cured people. But I said, "There's no point in going
to them because I would be going with a hypocritical heart, because
I believe that you always have to try to do it for yourself.
In my
books there are no "makeovers." In novels of the same type
and going to this same audience, there are "makeovers": the
fat person becomes thin, the single person becomes married and the poor
person becomes rich. Well, I've seen enough thin, rich and married people
who are dead unhappy, and that's not the way to get your redemption
in life.
I felt
I became a better novelist, and a better person, when I stopped believing
that there was somebody up there who was going to look after it all.
Because now I have to do something. If I see somebody lying on the street
because they're homeless I'm not going to take him home, I'm
not Mother Theresa I have to do something to help. Whereas, in
the old days, we were more inclined to think of the Sermon on the Mount,
"Blessed are the poor for they shall see God."
In Tara
Road nobody gets a Makeover, nobody gets life easy. And it's the
only thing I hate, when people say my books are "cozy," because
they're not. And also in my book there is a lot of my own philosophy
about secrets. I don't feel you have to tell everybody else your secrets.
I allow people I know to live in ignorance, and I'm sure I'm living
in ignorance about things myself. I don't believe Gertie has to be told
that her husband was a shit. I think she should be allowed to think,
"Okay, he's dead and he was a wonderful person," if she wants.
If she wants to remember it as a beautiful marriage, give her that.
KS:
What about your next book?
MB: I already
know what it's going to be about. It will be about a couple, a young
man and woman. These two are brought together by an impassioned urge
for cookery. There will be twelve chapters and it will be a different
story each month.
KS:
How hard is it now for you to make a book deal?
MB: Well,
I told them all of that about the book on one page and
handed it to them, and now twenty publishers in different countries
have answered back, "Go ahead and do it." So that's all I
need to do now. I'll start that book in September of next year and maybe
be done by March. It takes me about six months to write a book.
KS:
So you write yearly?
MB: I write
one book every two years.
KS:
As a brand new Maeve Binchy fan, I am looking forward to it.
Reprinted
from Celtic Curmudgeon: Arts & Entertainment Review, Volume
2, Issue 1.