The Birthdate of Sam(p)son CARVER
This Page was written & put on the Web AM 19 March 1999
by me, James W. Green III

Folks Huxford's Volume 2 gives the birth as ca. 1755.

BUT

I have changed it in my records to born probably before 1753, because
1) Maxine Gabennesch wrote:
 
From: WalMax Gabennesch 
To: carver@onelist.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:55:17 -0500
Subject: [Carver] Sampson Carver abt. 1752

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2) I wrote to ask where she got that Sampson was born about 1752 & she wrote:

From: WalMax Gabennesch 
To: carver@onelist.com
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:00:17 -0500
Subject: [Carver] Sampson Carver was born in WHAT year?????
From: WalMax Gabennesch

James; The reason we use abt. 1752 for the birth year of Sampson is because he was named first in the will of William Braswell-Carver, his father. We thought that, due to the inheritance progenitor laws of the time, the first born son was always the first named in wills. My direct ancestor William Carver, Sampson's brother, was named second which to us means that Sampson was born before William. William Carvers obituary, that we put on ONElist last week, from the Fayetteville Observer dated April 7, 1836 says he died in the 82nd year of his life. We know according to his pension papers he died on March 29, about a week before his obituary was published. William Carver stated in his Revolutionary Pension Papers of 1833 that he was born in April of 1753. If we are correct about the order in which the male children were named in the wills then I suppose Sampson could have been born any time before August of 1752. What do you think??? ANYBODY!! WHAT DO YOU THINK???

MAXINE:
WalMax Gabennesch

For Sampson's birth of "probably before 1753", I wrote "probably" because the birth order is only implied from the order in the will. I wrote "before 1753" because I did not want to write the month, i.e. I did not want to write: "before August 1752".

In regard to "August", that is based on William being carried 9 months by his mother prior to the birth of William and based on assuming it is unlikely that William is a younger twin of Sampson. Above, the pension says William was born in April 1753.

If William was born April 1, 1753, the 9 months that William was carried were Mar., Feb., & Jan. 1753 and Dec., Nov., Oct., Sept., Aug., & Jul. 1752, making Sampson born before July 1752.

If William was born April 30, 1753, the 9 months that William was carried were Apr., Mar., Feb., & Jan. 1753 and Dec., Nov., Oct., Sept., & Aug. 1752, making Sampson born before August 1752.

So from this input, Sampson was born before August 1752 & maybe before July 1752, so to combine the dates we can say from this input, Sampson was definitely born "before August 1752" (since that includes "before July 1752"). So I agree with Maxine, that Sampson was born before August 1752. The more I think of it, using "about" with a date is more useful than using "before" since "before" often means decades before. This input seems to indicate Sampson was born very shortly before 1753, such as 1752 & "about 1752", says that well.

The End


An Aside

I notice the obituary was wrong to say William "died in the 82nd year of his life". He died aged 82 & thus in the 83rd year of his life, since William was born in April 1753 & died March 29 1836 according to Maxine above. If interested, here is the math:
The info above gives that he died March 29 1836.
If it had said he died in his 1st year, he would have been born
between March 29, 1835 & March 28, 1836.
So the beginning year in the range is obtained by 1836 - 1 = 1835.
So the 82nd year of life would put him born in 1836 - 82 = 1754,
So the beginning year of the range is 1754.
So if he died in the 82nd year of his life,
then he was born between March 29, 1754 & March 28, 1755.
Above, it says the pension says he was born April 1753.
So he was born in the span of March 29, 1753 to March 28, 1753.
So, he died in the 83rd year of his life
& thus was aged 82 years (plus almost 11 to almost 12 months).

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